Jets, Turbines and Rockets Mailing List Resource

Main Sections

  • LIST JTR Mailing List Charter
  • FILE File Archive
  • IMG Image Archive
  • LINK Web site links
  • STORE Searchable archive of list traffic (eventually)

Projects

We need any information on past and especialy ongoing projects. Links and images and information to be added to this server.

List members contributions

  • bennett.txt Some history about the turbines Ian plays with to go with the images below
  • New
  • lubarsky.txt Some history about the turbines Bill plays with to go with the images below
  • young.txt Some history about the turbines David plays with to go with the images below

Trivia


Picture Prof. Goddard with early rocket. 
     "Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and
     reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against
     which to react.  He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily
     in high schools."

     1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work.



      "The aeroplane is fatally defective. 
      It is merely a toy--a sporting play-thing. 
      It can never become commercially practical."

      Interview with Dr. Nikola Tesla in New York Herald Tribune 15 Oct 1911

JTR Mailing List Charter

The patron of this list is Kalle Pihlajasaari.

The list moderator can be reached here.

The list charter culled from the creation message (and massaged a bit).

There is also the address for an allied list that discusses a narrower range of topics focusing on radial turbines made using standard turbo chargers in more detail.

Charter

This is a general list called JTR for jets, turbines and rockets.

This is a general list with any kind of discussion about the above with a personal or diy component. The charter does not allow for posting of binaries, rather place them on a server somewhere and post a pointer or URL.

This includes discussion on Jet engines (pulse, turbo, ram), turbines (automotive, model, research, modified commercial) and rockets (solid fuel, liquid fuel, hybrid fuel) and allied technologies.

How to JOIN the mailing list

You can join a list by sending mail to one of the addresses below. To get more info put the word help on its own in the subject and body of your message and the list-server may send you a list of other commands.

Do everyone a favour and save the message you get from the list server when you join.

The joining message usually describes the various list server commands, the address you should send them to and especially how to leave a list. The address that you send mail to is not the same as the one you send commands to. Some list servers have one command address for many lists and you have to know what the name of the list is that you want to control.

  • Jets, Turbines and Rockets with a personal, hobby or diy emphasis and no binaries 
    - Send message to jtr-request@ip.co.za with the word
- JOIN
- in the message body
  • DIY turbo-charger Turbines Topical postings only and no binaries 
    - Send message to dtt-request@ip.co.za with the word
- JOIN
- in the message body

Use LEAVE instead of JOIN to remove yourself from the list. Send all commands to the list from the same Email address.

File Archive

This is going to be a collection of files related to the JTR mailing list and other files that are related to the topics at hand.

Image Archive

This is going to be a collection of images related to the JTR mailing list and other images that are related to the topics at hand.
    Local images.
  • jeteng.gif MkI Jet Engine design proposal by Gene Timothy (7kb)
  • jeteng2.gif MkII Jet Engine design proposal by Gene Timothy (7kb)
  • tbn.gif MkIA Jet Engine design proposal by David Young (2kb)
  • tbn1.gif MkIB Jet Engine design proposal by David Young (2kb)
  • jetfan.gif Impeller diagram by Kalle Pihlajasaari (3kb)
  • img0001.jpg Man-Turbo/BMW 6012 GPU (Hand started) by Ian Bennett (7kb). Detail image (35kb)
  • img0002.jpg Man-Turbo/BMW 6012 GPU (Hand started) by Ian Bennett (22kb). Detail image (93kb)
  • img0007.jpg Garrett GTP30 by Ian Bennett (49kb). Detail image (120kb)
  • img0012.jpg Garrett GTP70 with Coke Bottle fuel tank by friend of Ian Bennett (23kb). Detail image (108kb)
  • img0013.jpg Jet Bike with a Turbomecca/Blackburn/RR Palouste by Ian Bennett (37kb). Detail image (113kb)
  • img0020.jpg Lucas Aerospace GTS/APU and Garrett GTP30/APU by Ian Bennett (33kb). Detail image (145kb)
  • img0025.jpg Modified Jet fuel Starter by Ian Bennett (24kb). Detail image (48kb)
  • rocketpl.jpg Rocket powered model plane (16kb). Detail image (42kb)
  • bailey.jpg Bench tested Pulse Jet by Richrd Caine (18kb). Detail image (293kb)
  • aerojet.gif Pulse Jet plans (88kb).
  • brauna.gif Pulse Jet plans (86kb).
  • braunb.gif Pulse Jet plans (80kb).
  • czec.gif Pulse Jet plans (95kb).
  • tempest.gif Pulse Jet plans (88kb).
  • curves1.gif Pressure, flow and power curves for Cusson educational turbocharger turbine by Roger Marmion (18kb).
  • curves2.gif Combustor temperature curve vs RPM by Roger Marmion (48kb).
  • leyland.gif Cutaway view of Leyland truck turbine showing gear trains by Roger Marmion (362kb).
  • fig4-1.jpg A typical combustion chamber by Roger Marmion (82kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig4-2.jpg Apportioning the airflow by Roger Marmion (18kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig4-3.jpg Flame stabilising and general airflow pattern by Roger Marmion (40kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig9-1.jpg Principle of afterburning by Roger Marmion (36kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig9-2.jpg Afterburning jetpipes by Roger Marmion (44kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig9-3.jpg Methods of afterburning ignition by Roger Marmion (48kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig9-4.jpg Thrust increase and temperature ratio by Roger Marmion (13kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig9-5.jpg Simplified control system by Roger Marmion (41kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig9-6.jpg Typical afterburner jet pipe equipment by Roger Marmion (60kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig9-7.jpg Afterburning propelling nozzels by Roger Marmion (102kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • fig9-8.jpg Specific fuel consumption comparison by Roger Marmion (22kb). Complete scanset ZIPed (1.92Mb)
  • comb1.jpg Brown Boveri pipe type turbine combustor by Jerry Collins (36kb). Detail Image (352kb)
  • chris.jpg Chris Quayle with his Rover turbine by Ian F Bennett (86kb).
  • instr.jpg Chris' turbines instrument cluster by Ian F Bennett (65kb).
  • derwent.jpg Eric Lipski running his turbine by Ian F Bennett (74kb).
  • derwent2.jpg Eric's Rolls Royce Derwent MK9 turbine by Ian F Bennett (107kb).
  • jetpipe.jpg Tail view of Eric's turbine by Ian F Bennett (81kb).
  • rover.jpg Rover turbine as fire pump at Bath University by Ian F Bennett (90kb).
  • solent.jpg Solent turbine used as Phantom starter by Ian F Bennett (labelled) (57kb).
  • image2.jpg Drawing with reverse flow combustor from Swedish model by Andr Baird (10kb) Original image Warning load at own risk (193kb).
  • murphy.jpg Not sure what (turbo prop apparently) by Brian (13kb).
  • airturb0.jpg Aircraft air cooling unit, bleed air powered (shaft) by Bill Lubarsky (11kb).
  • airturb1.jpg Aircraft air cooling unit, bleed air powered (diffuser) by Bill Lubarsky (13kb).
  • airturb2.jpg Aircraft air cooling unit, bleed air powered (shaft with legend) by Bill Lubarsky (16kb).
  • airturb3.jpg Aircraft air cooling unit, bleed air powered (housing) by Bill Lubarsky (34kb).
  • ram001.jpg Ramburner Mk6 (side view) by Bill Lubarsky (24kb).
  • ram002.jpg Ramburner Mk6 (end view) by Bill Lubarsky (29kb).
  • rocket00.jpg Liquid Propane-Nitrous turbine starter rocket engine by Bill Lubarsky (28kb).
  • trans001.jpg Transvector and home-made pneumatic airflow amplifier for ram jet by Bill Lubarsky (19kb).
  • turbo001.jpg High pressure turbine diffuser beginnings for Garrett TO4B by Bill Lubarsky (47kb).
  • rammk6.gif Fuelwaster ram combustor by Bill Lubarsky (7kb). Detail image (11kb)
  • radial5.jpg 5 Stage radial compressor by Shamar (83kb).
  • tesla_ga.jpg Tesla gas turbine (housing) by David Young (67kb).
  • tesla_tu.jpg Tesla gas turbine (closed) by David Young (63kb).
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  • kamps1.jpg Microturbine components by Thomas Kamps (54kb).
  • kamps2.jpg Microturbine turbine and compressor by Thomas Kamps (64kb).
  • kamps3.jpg Microturbine on test jig by Thomas Kamps (70kb).
  • kamps4.jpg Microturbine powered glider tow-plane It flies by Thomas Kamps (74kb).
  • kamps5.gif Microturbine plan by Thomas Kamps (13kb). Detail image (81kb)
  • kamps6.gif Microturbine powered glider tow-plane plan by Thomas Kamps (13kb). Detail image (61kb).

    • Off site images. with local archive copies

  • rhg_small.gif Dr. Robert H. Goddard with the first Liquid fuel rocket NASA (55kb)
  • savoy.gif Gas Turbine Jet Engine plans for US$15 from Savoy Scientific (21kb)
  • to-3-07b.gif P-15 Micro-jet engine from CAST (19kb)
  • fig-8.gif Water cooled model rocket engine from MIT RocketLab (45kb)
  • turbine1.gif Pegasus MK3 Model turbine from AMT Netherlands (5kb)
  • plane2.jpg Model plane with JPX240 turbine from B.T.Bromilow (49kb)
  • jfs100.jpg Micro/Ultralight turbine from Micro Aircraft (49kb)
  • capturb2.gif 24 kW Turbogenerator cutaway picture from Capstone Turbine Corporation (78kb)
  • arorms.jpg AeroTech E11-5J Reload Assembly Photo from Mountainside Hobbies (26kb) Defunct
  • verncell.gif Test-firing model rocket engine in the computerized test cell from National Association of Rocketry (28kb)
  • schematic.gif Valveless-Detonation Pulsejet Engine Schematic
    • from Vortex Technology Center (33kb)
  • j450.jpg High quality model Jet Turbine from Sophia Precision (65kb)
  • garrett.jpg Garrett JFS-100 13A Turbo shaft engine from gunner (15kb) Defunct
  • kurt.jpg Kurt Schreckling with his new FJ66 engine at the Gas Turbine Builders Association seminar at Royal Leamington Spa March 1997 from Robert Parkin (36kb)
  • axial2.jpg Minature Axial Flow engine at the Gas Turbine Builders Association seminar at Royal Leamington Spa March 1997 from Gas Turbine Builders Association (96kb)
  • 97022000.JPEG Garrett JFS-100 Engine from Exotic Aircraft Company (15kb) copy
  • gtc_fig1.gif Laborotory-Scale Gas Turbine Combustor from Advanced Combustion Engineering Research Centre (6kb) copy
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  • with_lub22.JPG DIY Bladeless Gas Turbine from David Young (51kb) copy

Web site links

This is a list of links to websites with content that has some bearing on the topics at hand.

Do you have a link you would like to add here, if so send me mail. Many of the links came from Larry's turbine page, thanks Larry.

And other flying things

  • New
  • Millennium Jet SoloTrek Exoskeleton Flying Vehicle
  • TECKNICO'S Microlight and skateboard hovercraft, plans for sale

    • Stats: 1296 Non-maintenance hits for 1996
    Disclaimer or other Postscript.
    Produced by Kalle Created ?/?/1996 Last changed on 13 October 1999.
    http://www.ip.co.za/people/kalle/jtr.htm Jets, Turbines and Rockets Page kalle@ip.co.za